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The van Gogh F-614

"A Conspiracy or just plain ignorance?"

You make up your own minds!

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Written by;   Bob Miller,    vanrijngo.

All the writings in these bloggs are of my own views and no one else's unless in "quotes" or taken from book contexts.

I have watch this video four times now, and I might add, one of the best documented films on Vincent van Gogh, "Me, My Brother and My Father's Van Gogh".  I will continue to do so for many more times.  It is a educational training film which was sent to me from Riverain Prod. Ltd. 205 Cordova St. Winnipeg. MB, free of charge, only to pay the postage.  I thank them for helping further my studies!

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I really hate it when people think and accuse me of doing what I do only to defame and bring ridicule and shame against so-called experts.  There are some who are in charge who know, and will not communicate with me. 

They remain silent knowing the difficulty in by-passing or stepping around the so-called experts.  Believe it or not, this is what has to take place to actually bring out the truths about who the artists infact were, and that is stepping around the experts.  I do not believe a lot of them know any better and it is not some own faults, but the ones that do know better,... shame-shame on you.

I have always been under the impression that tiles and accomplished achievement are something well earned and not just handed you on a piece of paper.  Well,... I say that it is time to bring out the truths instead of making every effort in keeping things as they are, by suppressing the truths.   It is as simple as that.

With new scientific research and new technologies in this world and how quickly they are advancing, how exact they are, I say it is now time to let science and the computers tell the truths as to who artists were.  These technical advancement of science could be done by many responsible people and students, not only by the so-called experts who happen to be in charge. 

I also know as they do themselves that a lot of funds will be lost to the wayside, but it will keep this from ever happening again to new art investors in the future.   Asked yourself, why is it so important to some to keep things as they are?  Do new buyers really want to take all these provenance's and hands on expertise determinations as the gospel as the Japanese have in the past?   Or would you rather have scientific proof? As far as provenance's go, they prove nothing other than the possibilities of forgery, fooling the supposed MFA experts in charge of Foundations.

I say let the ones in the scientific field, not the art field, make the determinations instead of the ones not being able to find out anything for sure and saying and making outrageous determinations to protect their own well being.  Does this sound reasonable to you?

I cannot understand how the governments of the worlds can remain silent themselves, leaving the general public and art investors believing everything is in the responsible one's hands.  What would you believe Picasso meant when he said; "Museums are full of lies and people who make art their business are mostly Impostor's"?  Well ,... It is not hard for me to figure out.

Most all these photos were shot with my digital camera taken from my television while the video type was in pause.  I hope that you will be able to put up with the blurring pictures and still be able to see what it is that I am trying to get across to you.

As I see, the same as Rembrandt and Vincent van Gogh did, Vincent's trees should become understandable when Vincent himself alluded to his sunflower pictures as to symbolizing "gratitude".  Referring to the intensity in which he painted, and precisely in connection with the masterfully constructed paintings of the sunflowers.  He says that, face to face with nature, he is seized with such excitement as to fall into fainting (laughing) fits.  This excitement, he explains, is of the same kind as that is experienced by people when they are overcome with gratitude.  What exactly did he mean by this?  Indeed, when one really thinks about his Sunflowers and studies them, one can grasp what he really meant.

Well,.. I would say Monica can tell the expert that she is wrong on her assumptions as to what the copier of this painting seen when he copied this painting, for in all of them that is not the most import part as you might be able to see in the light blue coloring of the painting above and to the left. 

The other half of this scientific problem which Monica figures isn't solved I believe could have only been done by the artist in question.  Monica was 100% correct on the Monticelli thing which influenced Vincent van Gogh.

One must wonder what a art expert, a supposed expert of fake van Gogh's meant when he told me in an email,  "There is no expert at the Foundation. Just two art historians in the Museum that became without any particular knowledge on Vincent (may be they knew his family name) became the best specialists in the world from one day to the other. The other scholars and the students are not better than them."

Don't most of you know as the expert had told me in another email, "A painting is not a piece produced by a genius.  Vincent was no genius, he was at work every day and had some ideas.  He succeeded.  Would another taste be on fashion today we would have another genius at  the top of the Pantheon.  But you are right and Vincent said that people were not buying paintings with artistic goals."


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To the left is Monica de Jong and her brother Michael unpacking their F-614 van Gogh painting which they inherited from their father, and it is as beautiful today as it was when it was painted.

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Monica's and Michael's Father & Grandfather de Jong's were in the art business their whole lifes as I understand it.  As Monica had stated her father and grandfather had sold many Vincent van Gogh's from their de Jong Art Gallery Business.   I am sure that the Art Historian Annet Tellegen-Hoogendoorm was not lying when she said that she had seen her father and grandfather on many occasions.

If most seeing this film cannot figure out in their own minds that this woman may have had many disagreement with these two people, about art, and by the way she didn't speak of them, not saying one thing about them.   I might have personally expected her determination to go as it did, along with the experts of the V.v.G. Foundation, whether it was pre-arranged or not. 

How this almost blind lady in her failing health, who makes absolutely no sense to me when she speaks could make her determinations that fast absolutely amazes me.  Especially after just barely being able to walk up to it for the first time seeing it and supposedly fooling so many other prominent art expert from the past before her irritates me to no end.  Maybe the Foundation should hire her to straighten out all their own mis-attributions.

H.P. Bremmer, along with J. B. de la Faille,  van Gogh expert's, believed that F-614 was a true van Gogh their whole lives the way I understand it.

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This Building on the left is where their father & grandfather ran their art business for years.  I am sure a lot of masterful art left these walls of their art gallery, some with-out all the provenance's that is expected today in-order to be from a assumed artist hand.  It totally amazes me how all the prominent people wound up with all of Vincent van Gogh art work in reading about the intensity and the amount of work which he produced and painted in his complete life time.  Especially when most his art work was sold out of wheel carts and by disgruntled landlords and art suppliers.   So you see, his brother Theo did not supply him the majority of his supplies like most would want you to believe.  If you seen the art work in the drawer Ella opened in the film, I believe was mostly  works that Vincent produced to sell himself, to trade to replenish his supplies.
Bob:  Most auction house employees, art experts or what ever you want to call them do not impress me what-so-ever with their knowledge, they are only interested in a few things as far as I am concerned. (1) First of all if painting or art work is signed. (2)Who is the owner.  (3) Wanting a stack of provenance telling them all about it.  (4) How much did you pay for it.  (5)  Where did you get it.  (6) What was said about it from its Foundation of the artist and do they except it from being from that artist. (7)  What would you be willing to take for it.  (8)  If we happen to take this on our action we might have to sell it in the circle of the artist and it more than likely won't bring its reserve we put on it, so are you prepared to pay the auction charges and the buy back fees?  (8)  As you are walking out,  ........  That is a fine painting,  .........  What  would you take for it or what do you want for that work?

expert:  Indeed! You seem to be used to dealing with these people.

 Bob:"Yes, here we are again with no work of his to really show for the way he was known to paint." 
Ben:  "I know some, that surfaced in 1938, but they were rejected."
Bob:  "And more than likely these were his true works of art if they happened to be examined scientifically, using photo enhancements for comparison of known techniques of Vincent's true works of art using five or six other ways and means that is rejected right now as art experts techniques and verifications." 
expert:  "Experts are more and more using new techniques."
Bob:  "It seem to me as though their main way of making their own decisions is by this soon to be out dated way which they rely so much on."
expert:  " I don't think so, because their expertise are not depending on the works but on the market organization. If the market stays what it is, the automatic "no" will remain "the" rule."

 

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I would love to see this complete monstrous painting which is hanging to the side of J. B. de la Faille a van Gogh art expert in its massive frame which it is in.  I myself would be willing to bet that it could possibly be a Rembrandt painted in 1635.  No, that couldn't possibly be, because according to the experts, Rembrandt only painted one painting of a ship out to sea.  That particular one was stolen from the Gardner Museum in the early 90's or late 80's, which actual date slips my memory.  Well, what doesn't evade or slip my memory is that Vincent  said many times that he himself very well new Rembrandt. 
ThenewVGtree.jpg (47505 bytes) Lets just call this on the left, Vincent's learning tree.  Start by putting these in a scanner for references for scanning other work of his for the % of probability.  Could it be that simple?  More than likely not, but it would be a good start from where they are at this present time.  Lets use Scientist's instead of so-called art experts since that is not their field of expertise and the fact that they are not that really to good at their own field of expertise from all the controversies now going around.  God I hate saying things like this but they leave me no choice by their remaining silent.   What else am I to think? 

I believe that  DNA, scanned styles of the artist brush strokes, real finger prints, if found on the edges and the backs of art work in the paint itself, from paint from his finger tips while holding the art work.  His styles and techniques known to be his in different time periods could be determined by use of scanners, paint and material analyzed, while discounting some traces of resins which weren't supposedly around then which could seep into the paint from varnishes over the years would also be a good start.  But not by those MFA experts who could stand to lose a lot by truths coming out of these findings.

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You make up your own minds.

This is all of my own oppinion of what I was to ascertain by watching this interesting video of "Me, My Brother and My Father's Van Gogh ".  I am sure some will think this very degrading, but I believe it to be the absolute truth.   History will tell if it ever gets around to it.

Bob Miller------art-zee------vanrijngo

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